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Fight On San Francisco MUNI Bus | Latest Viral YouTube Video

Well first things first, apologies for the lack of updates.

But let us get things brewing again with some viral video and what many have claimed to be racial tension on the much beloved San Francisco MUNI. The following video literally just hit YouTube, and from it, you get a front row shot to some good ol’  fisticuffs between two riders.

Now, my Cantonese isn’t strong enough to decipher everything the Asian lady was shouting in her heavy Chinese dialect that’s close to Cantonese (Probably Taishan) . But here’s what I could pick up:

  • The MUNI is a line that goes through San Francisco Chinatown, ergo the bus full of Asians
  • Either the Asian lady was taking up two seats with her groceries or the Black lady was taking up two seats with her purse [EDIT: Open to both possibilities. A number of commenters have translated and say the Asian lady is claiming the former; the video doesn’t capture anything prior to the argument]
  • Then, either the Asian lady moved the Black lady’s purse to sit down or vice versa with the groceries
  • From there, all hell breaks loose

From where the video starts, it looks like the black woman started the argument. There’s not enough video for us to really know who and how it started, but one thing I must say, the Asian lady’s broad vocabulary that is exclusives to the phrases “Fuck you” and “You are stupid” clearly escalated the conflict.

Was this fight initiated due to some sort of Bay-Area-Black-Asian racial tension?

Probably not.

[Edit: Took my personal opinion, that were biased against the Asian lady, out. It’s been brewing some very ignorant comments from other Asian-Americans reading this blog.]

Hilariously entertaining video, but nothing racial behind it for me to dissect here on Chinese or Japanese?

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  11. fggh says:

    Asian lady is a modern day Rosa Parks. Other Asians need to follow her example and deal with racist black people exactly the same way this lady does.

  12. lin says:

    Whoever want to say something about this, need to learn some TaiShaness.

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  14. EMANNI says:

    please visit http://www.baytac.org/MUNI_PROPOSAL_2010.pdf
    March 30, 2010, agenda

    Begin page content.

    SAN FRANCISCO
    MUNICIPAL TRANSPORTATION AGENCY
    BOARD OF DIRECTORS

    NOTICE OF MEETING AND CALENDAR
    Tuesday, March 30, 2010
    Room 400, City Hall
    1 Dr. Carlton B. Goodlett Place

    SPECIAL MEETING AND CLOSED SESSION
    9 A.M.

    SFMTA BOARD OF DIRECTORS

    Tom Nolan, Chairman
    Dr. James McCray, Jr., Vice Chairman
    Cameron Beach
    Shirley Breyer Black
    Malcolm Heinicke
    Jerry Lee
    Bruce Oka

    Nathaniel P. Ford, Sr.
    EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR/CEO

    Roberta Boomer
    SECRETARY

    The Origin of BAYTAC according to Emanuel Andreas, President

    On April 7th, 2009, at around 3: 33 PM, I attended SFMTA’s monthly Board meeting and made a public comment, in which I opposed SF Muni giving SFPD $19 million for security they did not provide. The next day, I was told by the dispatcher on duty that I was being placed on non-driving status. I knew that this was management’s retaliation to my public comment, because I was given no reason as to why I was pulled from driving.

    On April 10th 2009, I came to work with my laptop and established a small corner office at the Potrero Division lunch room. While I was writing my letters, many operators came and asked my advice for rule violations they received from the management. I helped some of them and I felt that it was almost impossible for one person to solve every problem. In addition, I received many phone calls on my cell phone from other operators in other divisions, asking for my help. Because of these calls, I dedcided to form an organization. I began consulting my good friends and retired Transit Operators, John and Ellen Murray.

    I would like to thank Victor Gryson, operator, from Green Division for our fruitful discussion. In addition, I would like to recognize Dr. Collins and my classmates from both the Computer Repair and Electronics courses, at the Southeast Campus of City College of San Francisco, for their encouragement and support, in helping me shaping my thoughts in setting up this progressive organization, Bay Area Transportation Advisory Commission, or B.A.Y.T.A.C. I would also like to thank Dr. Veronica Hunnicutt, Dean of the Southeast Campus for giving me permission to use the conference room at Sourtheast Campus, as a meeting place to further our cause. Last, but absolutely not least, I would like to thank Mr. Al Yates, Vice-President of the Southeast Campus Student Association, for his support and dedication to our organization. With the help of these generous and wonderful individuals, I know that I can stand up to the SFMTA.

    For management to put me under house division arrest without any reason shows the impact I have made and continue to make on the operators. This organization and the services it is providing will make it easier for operators who are experiencing undue penalties and discipline to fight back. Many of our operators do not know how to fight back for many reasons, some which include: lack of information, lack of resources, and fearing the loss of their jobs, just to name a few. B.A.Y.T.A.C. will serve as an instrumental organization in trying to right the wrongs inflicted by managerment.

    Membership

    Membership to BAYTAC is open to everyone who believes in stopping unjust actions to good, hardworking people. We do not discriminate against race, color, creed, gender, or nationality, the disabled, the employed, nor the unemployed. All we ask is a monthly donation of $5.00 in order to cover our expenses. We expect our members to attend meetings at least 2 to 3 hours per month. B.A.Y.T.A.C. will grow stronger as more people get involved.

    We are a non-profit organization, which means that we will have fundraising events from time to time to cover expenses such as printed materials, picture production, video production, travel expenses, (for our representatives to and from hearings and meetings all over the Bay Area) and finally, for this website and its maintenance.

    MEMBERSHIP MEETINGS

    B.A.Y.T.A.C. meets every Friday from 7:00pm-9:00pm. The location varies from week to week, so if you are interested in attending, please call Emanuel at 707-319-9952

    The Origin of BAYTAC according to Emanuel Andreas, President

    On April 7th, 2009, at around 3: 33 PM, I attended SFMTA’s monthly Board meeting and made a public comment, in which I opposed SF Muni giving SFPD $19 million for security they did not provide. The next day, I was told by the dispatcher on duty that I was being placed on non-driving status. I knew that this was management’s retaliation to my public comment, because I was given no reason as to why I was pulled from driving.

    On April 10th 2009, I came to work with my laptop and established a small corner office at the Potrero Division lunch room. While I was writing my letters, many operators came and asked my advice for rule violations they received from the management. I helped some of them and I felt that it was almost impossible for one person to solve every problem. In addition, I received many phone calls on my cell phone from other operators in other divisions, asking for my help. Because of these calls, I dedcided to form an organization. I began consulting my good friends and retired Transit Operators, John and Ellen Murray.

    I would like to thank Victor Gryson, operator, from Green Division for our fruitful discussion. In addition, I would like to recognize Dr. Collins and my classmates from both the Computer Repair and Electronics courses, at the Southeast Campus of City College of San Francisco, for their encouragement and support, in helping me shaping my thoughts in setting up this progressive organization, Bay Area Transportation Advisory Commission, or B.A.Y.T.A.C. I would also like to thank Dr. Veronica Hunnicutt, Dean of the Southeast Campus for giving me permission to use the conference room at Sourtheast Campus, as a meeting place to further our cause. Last, but absolutely not least, I would like to thank Mr. Al Yates, Vice-President of the Southeast Campus Student Association, for his support and dedication to our organization. With the help of these generous and wonderful individuals, I know that I can stand up to the SFMTA.

    For management to put me under house division arrest without any reason shows the impact I have made and continue to make on the operators. This organization and the services it is providing will make it easier for operators who are experiencing undue penalties and discipline to fight back. Many of our operators do not know how to fight back for many reasons, some which include: lack of information, lack of resources, and fearing the loss of their jobs, just to name a few. B.A.Y.T.A.C. will serve as an instrumental organization in trying to right the wrongs inflicted by managerment.

    Membership

    Membership to BAYTAC is open to everyone who believes in stopping unjust actions to good, hardworking people. We do not discriminate against race, color, creed, gender, or nationality, the disabled, the employed, nor the unemployed. All we ask is a monthly donation of $5.00 in order to cover our expenses. We expect our members to attend meetings at least 2 to 3 hours per month. B.A.Y.T.A.C. will grow stronger as more people get involved.

    We are a non-profit organization, which means that we will have fundraising events from time to time to cover expenses such as printed materials, picture production, video production, travel expenses, (for our representatives to and from hearings and meetings all over the Bay Area) and finally, for this website and its maintenance.

    MEMBERSHIP MEETINGS

    B.A.Y.T.A.C. meets every Friday from 7:00pm-9:00pm. The location varies from week to week, so if you are interested in attending, please call Emanuel at 707-319-9952

    [Reply]

  15. Paul says:

    Nothing like the “Model Minority” and the “Model-Idiot Minority” duking it out…

    http://stuffblackpeopledontlike.blogspot.com/2010/01/18-model-minority.html

  16. YM says:

    This is a rough transcript of the YouTube video showing the fight between a Taishanese woman and a black lady on MUNI: http://yingma.org/2010/01/03/chinese-woman-beats-black-lady-on-sf-muni/. It includes, to the extent possible, a full translation of all the Chinese uttered in the video. So far, quite a few viewers of the video, the local media and MUNI officials have condemned the fight. Many of them, however, do not appear to understand Chinese and hence do not appear to have understood what in fact transpired. For those who actually care about the facts, they can now read the transcript and draw their own conclusions.

  17. nana says:

    Hell yeah mom.
    Time for the shorukyen

    I guess this is the female version of
    Bruce vs. Kareem.

  18. nana says:

    I guess this is the female version of
    Bruce vs. Kareem.

  19. Well said my man

    HoboTheClown :
    Awesome video, love the way this is causing so much tension. I just feel the uneasiness in some of you folks out there. I want to say I don’t really care what people think of what I’m going to say but these are my opinions. First off, stop provoking racism by using the n* word, but the same goes to using the other n word (niggah, nigga, blah blah). Why use it? Just shows how ‘ghetto’ people are. Yes, I shame myself for using it as well :).
    All those people who say there was no need to fight and both were animals for fighting. STFU! There are reasons to fighting and be it the Chinese lady provoked by saying, “You are stupid, or Fuck You”, or the black lady saying the mentioned statements other commenters posted, it all comes down to the fault of the black lady! Sue that bitch! (Note, I did not say black bitch, you racist fuckers). So the Chinese lady had to whoop the black lady’s ass. There was a man in the background where you could hear him say, “Hit her, hit her” in Cantonese. As for the ABC chick, she’s more of a disgrace trying to act civilized by saying, “stop fighting, and so immature” STFU! People like her are annoying. If she wanted to do something about it, she would have stepped up her ass up and prevented it from even starting.
    I don’t know what the bus driver was doing though, but surely he didn’t do enough. I don’t know where I’m going with this but man, my final thoughts are…
    If people don’t need two seats, why the fuck take up two when you can let someone else sit down. It’s obvious it’s call common courtesy. We have enough problems with FAT people suing airlines already because they aren’t willing to fucking exercise. ( oh yeah, you people must remember that as well. Don’t blame that shit on diabeties and genetics you lazy fucks) Jesus, I swear I wish I was never an American Citizen sometimes!

  20. dianeB says:

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  21. An angry black woman, possessed with all the usual smoke, funk, wind and noise, that have come to symbolize the national angry black woman epidemic, ran smack dab into her new world order. Her bluff was called, and she had no fire to back up her feeble thunder that day on that bus, when she ran into an Asian typhoon—a Chinese soul sister, from some rural Chinese province, hardened from sun up to sun down labor in the crop fields or sweat shop factories in the land of Mao.

    Ming-Tank Sue of the Chan Woo School of Whup Ass ate Miss Section 8’s ass for lunch—and was going to stuff the rest of the black chop suey into a angry black woman doggie bag, had not she been stopped from getting at her angry black woman leftovers. This black female fool met more than her match. She must have had no idea, when she first stepped on that bus, that she would be taking a journey through the Twilight Zone and bus ride through Hell. Here she was, surrounded by a bus full of Chinese, thinking that she was going to assert her angry black woman privilege and run her motor-mouth threats unchecked. This flip mouth dim wit must have known instantly that she was in a world of trouble when her feeble sucker punch bounced off of Sue’s head — and Sue did not blink. Sue didn’t cower. The Boxer Rebellion was on!

    Ming-Tank Sue fired into gear and rolled her big black ass, like a Sherman tank, right over baby-momma drama like she wasn’t even there — all her wolf tickets fell out on the floor as her bluster and bombast melted into an image of stark fear as Ming-Tank Sue slapped the eagle claw grip on her ass. It must have flashed across the ABW’s mind, at the moment the fear and head wuppin set in, that she was the lone ink spot, surrounded by a sea of yellow kung fu fighters, that she was about to meet her maker at the hands of a one woman human wave attack.

  22. Henry says:

    Has the black woman been arrested yet for assault. Everybody seems to be calling this a fight. In reality this is clearly a case of a woman defending herself in self defence.

  23. HoboTheClown says:

    Awesome video, love the way this is causing so much tension. I just feel the uneasiness in some of you folks out there. I want to say I don’t really care what people think of what I’m going to say but these are my opinions. First off, stop provoking racism by using the n* word, but the same goes to using the other n word (niggah, nigga, blah blah). Why use it? Just shows how ‘ghetto’ people are. Yes, I shame myself for using it as well :).
    All those people who say there was no need to fight and both were animals for fighting. STFU! There are reasons to fighting and be it the Chinese lady provoked by saying, “You are stupid, or Fuck You”, or the black lady saying the mentioned statements other commenters posted, it all comes down to the fault of the black lady! Sue that bitch! (Note, I did not say black bitch, you racist fuckers). So the Chinese lady had to whoop the black lady’s ass. There was a man in the background where you could hear him say, “Hit her, hit her” in Cantonese. As for the ABC chick, she’s more of a disgrace trying to act civilized by saying, “stop fighting, and so immature” STFU! People like her are annoying. If she wanted to do something about it, she would have stepped up her ass up and prevented it from even starting.
    I don’t know what the bus driver was doing though, but surely he didn’t do enough. I don’t know where I’m going with this but man, my final thoughts are…
    If people don’t need two seats, why the fuck take up two when you can let someone else sit down. It’s obvious it’s call common courtesy. We have enough problems with FAT people suing airlines already because they aren’t willing to fucking exercise. ( oh yeah, you people must remember that as well. Don’t blame that shit on diabeties and genetics you lazy fucks) Jesus, I swear I wish I was never an American Citizen sometimes!

  24. Alina says:

    Some people are so ignorant. The situation had nothing to do with race. The asian lady stated she asked the black woman to move her bag nicely but the black woman did not move it. It just a fight over a seat not with race.

  25. ojeweret says:

    i think that it was pretty funny

  26. schtickyrice says:

    @author,
    Many Asian-Americans voted for Obama for various reasons: because of his Harvard education, because of his charisma, or because of his minority status, what have you…
    Let it rest, you are making inferences again about one’s political and racial attitudes without proof. As far as I can tell, the commenter above did not make any derogatory remarks about African-Americans at all. The only person he/she insulted was YOU.

  27. Will says:

    xie :

    If you don’t understand cantonese, you better shut your mouth up instead of making your stupid “inference”. Let me tell you what happened — the black lady occupied a seat using her bag and refused to give it to the Chinese. This caused the argument and the black started the first punch. You got it ? Don’t make your stupid inference and bull shit those Chines bus ‘rules’. Please focus on what happened in this case, don’t bull shit other non sense. how did you know it is ‘probably’ because the Chinese woman ignore the bus rule ? I think you deserve to be called “stupid’ by that chinese woman too simply because you make judegment without using your brain — well, maybe you don’t really use it often, right ?

    xie :

    If you don’t understand cantonese, you better shut your mouth up instead of making your stupid “inference”. Let me tell you what happened — the black lady occupied a seat using her bag and refused to give it to the Chinese. This caused the argument and the black started the first punch. You got it ? Don’t make your stupid inference and bull shit those Chines bus ‘rules’. Please focus on what happened in this case, don’t bull shit other non sense. how did you know it is ‘probably’ because the Chinese woman ignore the bus rule ? I think you deserve to be called “stupid’ by that chinese woman too simply because you make judegment without using your brain — well, maybe you don’t really use it often, right ?

    The video shows an argument, and nothing before. Your take on it is based purely on what the Asian lady is well, another inference nonetheless.

    And it’s been argued enough that the lady was speaking toisan. You commenters seem to have issue agreeing with that as well.

    Something tells me it eats you up that Obama is our President and there’s not a thing you could do about it.

  28. Ha says:

    It must suck to live in a sewer.

  29. Johnny Depp says:

    Anyone realize how retarded that ABC that tried to break up the fight was?

    She starts yelling profanities at auntie…
    she shields the black chick, who started the fight but ended getting her ass beat….

    something tells me Will = ABC’s boyfriend.

  30. xie says:

    If you don’t understand cantonese, you better shut your mouth up instead of making your stupid “inference”. Let me tell you what happened — the black lady occupied a seat using her bag and refused to give it to the Chinese. This caused the argument and the black started the first punch. You got it ? Don’t make your stupid inference and bull shit those Chines bus ‘rules’. Please focus on what happened in this case, don’t bull shit other non sense. how did you know it is ‘probably’ because the Chinese woman ignore the bus rule ? I think you deserve to be called “stupid’ by that chinese woman too simply because you make judegment without using your brain — well, maybe you don’t really use it often, right ?

  31. schtickyrice says:

    @author:

    Why don’t you just come right out and say it: “Of course it’s the Asian lady’s fault, what do you expect? She’s dressed like a Mainlander!”

    You may not be a racist, like some of the unfortunate comments posted here, but your perpetuation of stereotypes based on economic class and national/regional origins are no better. You really are a self-hating Chinaman.

    @fellow commenters:
    Please try to treat EVERYONE as individuals, with their own faults and virtues. Leave your own personal baggage behind, and don’t project your negative experiences with select individuals onto anyone else that fits the particular racial/ethnic group. We all have to live together and get along. Have your beef with individual assholes, but do not escalate this into a racial thing.

  32. Lilian says:

    Okay… let’s summarize:
    1) The author doesn’t understand “Cantonese” (even though others have clearly stated that the woman wasn’t even speaking Cantonese)
    2) The Asian woman was wrong for saying “You are stupid” and “Fuck you”, but the black woman was obviously just defending herself (sarcasm) when she said “I’m gonna fuck you up”
    3) The author doesn’t know HOW the whole thing started, and yet, went on to assume that it was the Asian lady’s fault for not being Westernized enough
    4) The black woman threw the first punch, only to get her ass beaten

    And yet….the author STILL made those conclusions, refuse to edit his blog (maybe it’s for the attention his site is getting), and still pathetically tries to defend his remarks. AUTHOR: YOU ARE A FCKING IDIOT! In case others haven’t said that clearly enough. What kind of Asian ARE you? Lol just cus the president is black doesn’t mean you have to kiss up to black people’s ass. Asian people are always picked on because there’s the “quiet, shy” Asian stereotype. On the other hand, a lot of black people-ghetto or not- (I grew up in a predominately neighborhood) are usually loud, obnoxious, and thinks that the world owes them for slavery. Will, you’re a disgrace to Asians.

  33. Edward says:

    @author:

    “It’s almost assuredly so that the Asian lady was from China, and to which she probably never adopted the western way of sharing seats or waiting in straight lines.”

    Your words. In light of what several readers who understand the chinese lady’s dialect have explained – do you still stand by them?

  34. Will (author) says:

    outsider :
    wow, there are a lot of racist commenters on this. I am embarassed for you, but am guessing that many of you probably don’t know that you should be embarassed. I am disappointed that so many have these attitudes and sad that this is how things are. btw, I am not of either race involved in the fight.

    A BLACK THOUGHT :
    Man, that was a heck of a fight!!! Those of you who are making it a race thing ARE expessing your own biases. Both women could have prevented the incident. Someone else on the could have given up their seat to the Asian woman if they were concern about a disturbance breaking out. You know darn well the driver wasn’t going to do anything. Now both women have to deal with the embarrassment of each losing their cool. But it was still one heck of a fight!!!! Still LOL.

    I couldn’t have said it better…oh wait, I did:

    “Hilariously entertaining video, but nothing racial behind it for me to dissect here on Chinese or Japanese?”

    The opinions I’ve expressed in this video are just some random offshoot thoughts I’ve had. Stop thinking this is going in the annals of Asian American history people…this incident speaks nothing to race relations despite what any of you think.

  35. Will (author) says:

    Mar :

    The author must be one of those self-hating Asians who makes excuses for bad behavior from one group over his own people.
    The proof shows that black people, especially young ones, are extremely rude and violent. I myself have experienced it quite a few times and many Asian people have experienced the racist belligerent verbal attacks by black people.

    …Are you serious. Are their faults in the post I wrote? Sure. But you can’t be serious in arguing against anything I’ve said with a comment like this.

    In reading comments towards the slight biases I may have had in my post, I have read through the most inherent, institutionalized, and internal racist comments from people who don’t even realize their own internalized racism and biases.

    Change, starts from within people. You feel like black people have been racist towards Asians or have somehow been scorned by a few black persons in your lifetime? Well those who have thrown out their own racist comments, you’re not inspiring any kind of change – just perpetuating the cycle.

  36. Mar says:

    Blacks always try to find a way to blame Asians for opening shops in their communities.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muZJzsKT1U4

    They also blame Arabs and Muslims.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjFSkDF1p-s

    Maybe if they should open their own stores instead of whining and always blaming other races.

  37. Mar says:

    Do you remember there was an incident a couple of weeks ago in St. Louis Belleview high school bus of blacks ganging up and beating a white teen who wanted to sit down and he touched the black teens bag. It was a brutal racist attack.

    In my town blacks and Mexican-Americans got into fights on the school bus when a Mexican-American accidentally bumped into a black student. Suddenly the blacks started to attack the Mexican-American students on the bus.

    Also young black teens were robbing and stealing purses from Asians in my city. They would target Asian women and assault them to steal their purses, even brutally knocking them down.

    The author must be one of those self-hating Asians who makes excuses for bad behavior from one group over his own people.

    The proof shows that black people, especially young ones, are extremely rude and violent. I myself have experienced it quite a few times and many Asian people have experienced the racist belligerent verbal attacks by black people.

    I am glad the Auntie stood up for herself and did not back down.

  38. PTL says:

    @JERI CURL
    I was not assuming that all Asians own nail salons, first of all. What I intended to do is respond to the racist comments people like you are making on this site. Forgive me if it sounded as if I made such a stereotypical judgement. I apologize. But you are using such horrific and nasty vocabulary to refer to black people, in general. You need to sit down and shut up with that. Yes, I am a “proud” black woman, but I am a person first. I do not define myself by my ethnicity. The reason I mentioned it is I wanted it to be known that not all black people condone rudeness on the part of other blacks, just because they are black. I am offended by some of your comments, period, and wanted you to know that. You don’t know me either, so you shouldn’t make assumptions about me. Anyone with a sense of morals and values can easily identify right from wrong. As for the “black” people you speak about I am not one of them. I do not deny that there are some “black” people who are rude etc., just as there are rude Asian, white, etc. people, but neither you nor I should be putting anyone of one particular ethnicity into any one category. You sound pretty ignorant yourself that you have to call people, “cunts”, “niggers”,
    “cheapskates”, etc. Like I said before, I was appalled by the racist comments I ran across on this site. It’s unfortunate that the only black people you’ve encountered have been rude towards you or others, but I assure you they are in the minority. As you said we all do have our own problems and most of us work hard everyday to care for ourselves and our families just like everybody else. Have a nice life and try to get over yourself. I’m done with this conversation with you. Go back to resorting to name-calling which I’m sure you will do once you have read this.

  39. Kevin says:

    Wow. The author is way off base here. Author, please don’t make any inferences that she may have pushed her way thru the bus. You don’t know that. So don’t trash your own people. Sistah in blue is Toisan or some variant thereof. I distinctly heard her say that she politely asked and would appreciate it if she let her sit but the other person still hogged up the slot. m’goi thlai…… meant she said please’ …kuy von bahh gee guh vay mmay ngoi too….. meant she still hogged up the spot and would not let me sit. Sistah in blue and I are off the same cookie cutter. I felt sorry for her because not only was she pissed – her feelings were hurt, honestly. Toward the end of the clip, she was explaining what had transpired, in a highly and emotional supplicating manner to fellow riders. I felt bad for her. Don’t ever piss off a Toisan sistah!

  40. Kevin says:

    Wow. The author is way off base here. Author, please don’t make any inferences that she may have pushed her way thru the bus. You don’t know that. So don’t trash your own people. Sistah in blue is Toisan or some variant thereof. I distinctly heard her say that she politely and would appreciate letting her sit but the other person still hogged up the slot. <> <<kuy von bahh gee guh vay mmay ngoi too….. meant she still hogged up the spot and would not let me sit. Sistah in blue and I are off the same cookie cutter. I felt sorry for her because not only was she pissed – her feelings were hurt, honestly. Don’t ever piss off a Toisan sistah!

  41. I am a black man married to an asian woman from Laos.

    We both enjoyed watching the video.

  42. A BLACK THOUGHT says:

    Man, that was a heck of a fight!!! Those of you who are making it a race thing ARE expessing your own biases. Both women could have prevented the incident. Someone else on the could have given up their seat to the Asian woman if they were concern about a disturbance breaking out. You know darn well the driver wasn’t going to do anything. Now both women have to deal with the embarrassment of each losing their cool. But it was still one heck of a fight!!!! Still LOL.

  43. outsider says:

    wow, there are a lot of racist commenters on this. I am embarassed for you, but am guessing that many of you probably don’t know that you should be embarassed. I am disappointed that so many have these attitudes and sad that this is how things are. btw, I am not of either race involved in the fight.

  44. Jeri Curl says:

    Blacks act just like a sub-human species without respect for the preciousness and beauty of life. I do not understand them. They are very different from other people in the US. They’re always shooting, beating and killing each other or anyone else. They’re openly rude wherever you go, they drive like they’re insane, they attack you if you say anything. YET they are ALWAYS the “victim”. Talk about a HUGE case of cognitive-dissonance. No respect for anyone…while demanding it of everyone.

    Disgusting.

  45. Jeri Curl says:

    @ PTL

    Uh huh. Sigh, another “proud” “strong” religious black woman. You are a parody of yourself. How racist is it of you, PTL, to assume all Asians own nail salons? Unless you’re Korean, of course, because then you own a small corner grocery store.

    Using your logic those blacks who are always referring to people of other races derogatorily “are making [black] people look bad”. I am always hearing racist commments when I observe black people in groups (like on MUNI or elsewhere in public) who don’t give a shit about “showing their own hidden biases”. They think everyone is afraid of them because they’re black when, in reality, everyone is just embarrassed for them and wishes they would just shut the fuck up and go away.

    I can’t stand people with a sense of entitlement no matter what race but let’s face it, PTL, the vast majority of people in this country with a HUGE sense of entitlement are black. Most sane people hate them for that because: 1) WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN DAMN PROBLEMS, and 2) we neither blame nor expect solutions from other people for those problems.

    Who needs “the support of black dollars” when blacks never tip anyway? Cheapskates.

    AND while I love my president it is entirely possible for me to hate black people who are stupid without being a racist. I love Al Gore and I hate white people who are stupid, like Rush Limbaugh and anyone named Bush. I love the Dalai Lama but hate stupid Asians like Kim Jong IL. No difference.

    Wake up to what real equality smells like. Sit down, shut up and realize you share the planet.

  46. PTL says:

    I am a black woman, and I do not condone what the black woman on the bus did. No, she should not have hit the Asian woman first, but it appalls me that people on this blog are referring to her as a “nigger” and “black bitch”. These statements in and of themselves are racist. If I were as ignorant as those people making those statements, I could also make a derogatory statement towards Asians, but I won’t. It seems to me, those who make comments like that are showing their own hidden biases. Right is right and wrong is wrong. It doesn’t matter what a person’s ethnicity is. I’m sure the people who used that language would not use it around a group of black people, which is why they posted anonomously. They are making Asian people look bad. Who do you see frequenting the Asian owned nail salons and beauty supply stores? I myself, am a conscious consumer, and no, I do not put that fake crap on my nails and skin. However, many African-American women do, unfortunately. Nevertheless, how many of those salons would be successful if it were not for the black consumer. Therefore, do not make racist comments and expect to have the support of our dollars, because I will surely pass this information on to let others know how you REALLY feel about us, and ask them to boycott your establishments.

  47. Anonymous says:

    This blog is absolutely inaccurate. The whole incident started off with the black woman hogging two seats so the Chinese woman asked for one of her seats. The black woman refused to give up her extra seat so that was when the Chinese woman started get ticked off. Then they started screaming at each other; all the Chinese woman said was “fuck you” and “you are stupid”. She said those two phrases repeatedly and later, the black woman punched her so the Chinese woman just defended herself.

  48. 巴士乘客 says:

    同車的乘客,有的在打鬥前已開腔聲援巴士阿嬸,說不能示弱被欺負。在打鬥發生後,多名乘客叫好,直至見場面惡化,才改口勸止。

    這反映了其實華裔在公車上確是受了不少冤屈氣,經常聽到長者說在公車上被非裔騷擾、漫罵以至推撞時有發生,更甚重的偷竊搶劫也不罕見。一般華裔多是抱著忍讓態度,見到暴力事件,也沒能力或不知道如何應對。因此,巴士阿嬸事件可以視之為一「爆炸點」個案。公車當局應該嚴肅處理,保障公車上乘客的安全,不被滋擾,生命財物不受威脅。目前公車局消極不干預的政策是極度不負責任的,警方也應有更利便乘客報案的機制。

  49. Jeri Curl says:

    Stupid Cunt.

    Best part is 1:20-1:26 when the Crazian lady pounds that stupid fucking black cunt right on her goddamn worthless head.

    That Crazian lady beat her OFF the bus! LOL!!!

  50. Jeri Curl says:

    Did you notice that NONE of the Asian people on the bus (and they were ALL Asian) encouraged the fight? They tried to stop the fight. NONE of them joined in an punched the black woman. You know if the situation were reversed all the blacks would have screamed and hollered like animals and started beating on the Asian woman.

    AND that stupid black bitch phsyically and verbally threatened that Asian woman when she did nothing. Black people always act as if no one can be upset around them or act as though they are not to blame for anything.

    Here’s what that Black bitch said before the Asian woman could even respond:

    1) “I will whoop your fuckin ass man.”

    2) “Put your hands on me and I guarantee you won’t walk off this bus.”

    3) “Bitch, I’m gonna get yo ass.”

    Stupid black bitch deserved to get the shit kicked out of her.

  51. Anonymous says:

    haha this lady is speaking in the toisan dialect. being fluent in toisan and cantonese, i can verify that.

  52. ashamed says:

    stop saying the mother f-in “n-word” assholes. if you want to say somebody won a fight then just say that shit but instead you just want to use this opportunity to display your racism. make yourselves look and feel better. pathetic. you make me sick. that’s the only thing this thread has been good for. to show just how damn racist asians are as well.

    not to mention people on the bus where telling the woman to fight and to stand up for the chinese? wtf? she didn’t stand up to shit, she just got in a fight and chinese people just want to get in on it to reclaim their dignity? i’m chinese and it isn’t worth claiming especially after this thread and the blatant racism.

  53. Anonymous says:

    The nigger is completely wrong in that she took up two seats in the #9 or #30 bus of MUNI that runs through Chinatown. Those two buses are usually always packed during the day due to the huge amount of Chinese people getting off work or shopping for groceries from another district. I grew up riding both buses and speak both dialects. This type of shit always happen on the bus, and the nigger is the one starting it EVERY single fucking time. Chinese people, if whom any of you guys know any, generally mind their own business and shuts the fuck the up. After a long day of work and carrying bags full of groceries and not offered a seat in public transportation, you will be pissed. Im sure the Chinese lady paid her fair share and that nigger hopped on the back for all i know. All in all Rosa Parks failed on this one, dam nigger deserved what she got, dont you fucken threaten my people like that saying “you will get off this bus.” And you guys dont know about the flying JUMP KICK did you, its embedded in every single Shaolin watching Chinese out there

  54. Anonymous101 says:

    All i have to say, the black lady hit her first. so the Asian lady have the right to sue her. she defended herself. The Asian lady doesn’t even speak English. she can only say “fuck you!” in the video. plus, Anywhere in the world, Any country! there are fights similar too this. People in most countries who watch the the fights don’t even care cause every country in the world don’t have good laws. On 1:32 the lady with the short hair that stop the fight. she should never stop the fight! let them beat the crap of each other. until the police arrive and take both of them into custody for questioning. so they can resolve this verbal and physical conflict.

  55. Anonymous says:

    above racists :
    Dude.
    …. I don’t think the black lady was wrong. ….
    …. I don’t know how this started and noone does that wasn’t there, ….
    Holy crap, asian people are RACIST.

    You are such a fucker that you don’t know how this started so you don’t think the black bitch was wrong. This proves you have a fucking clear logic to judge the truth, hah?

  56. Not Impressed By Your BLog says:

    To the blogger: Are you even Chinese?? You clearly don’t understand what the Chinese lady is saying because you got the story all wrong. I am Chinese and my parents speak that dialect so I understand everything that was being said. It was the black lady’s fault for not giving up one of the 2 seats she was hogging up. So why the hell are you picking on the Chinese lady? And are you trying to be funny? Cuz you’re not.

  57. Tony A. says:

    Will :
    [Author]
    And apologies my semi-satirical tone came off, as well, whatever it came off as. I didn’t think you guys would read literally into every word.

    I’ll commend you for the apology (I know how difficult that is for most people when it comes to blogging), but… really… I think you’d get a lot less angry bloggers if you just deleted all the generalizations about people from China from this blog.

  58. Will says:

    [Author]

    And apologies my semi-satirical tone came off, as well, whatever it came off as. I didn’t think you guys would read literally into every word.

  59. Will says:

    Hehe, I’m all for my Asian sister. But come on now, there is absolutely no reason to pull any kind of Racial bit out of this.

    Ana – “And about the racial tension between Asian and Blacks… while it’s not as pronounced, Asians have always been picked on as easy targets. Finally someone fought back to the abuse.”

    […and this isn’t any more unfounded on my assertion of cultural differences and mannerisms from Asia?]

    Tony A. – “Seriously. Are you fucking kidding me!?!!! You’re trying to blame this on the Chinese lady?”

    [I put it on her that she escalated it. And this is purely from a perspective point of view, the black lady was probably rude and positively hot tempered. But could she understand the Asian lady explaining herself in Chinese? Nope. Only words that came out of her mouth was “You are stupid” and “Fuck you”

  60. Tony A. says:

    The person who wrote this blog is a coward. He clearly was so afraid of offending Black people with this blog that he decided to blast his own race.

    Seriously. Are you fucking kidding me!?!!! You’re trying to blame this on the Chinese lady? Who threw the first punch!?!! People get into verbal altercations all the time in this country, but not every verbal altercation turns into a physical altercation. The Chinese woman didn’t turn this argument into a fist fight. The Black woman did. If you are Asian and you are watching that video, you don’t have to feel guilty just because the Chinese woman ended up beating that Black woman’s ass.

  61. WTF says:

    Ana said:

    “I’m sorry, but your take on this video is horribly wrong. This isn’t even Cantonese, it’s Taishanese. How racist are you to say that based on her coming from China that she hasn’t learned of seat sharing and waiting in lines? How are those things even “Western practice”? It’s called having manners and being considerate… which the Black lady clearly had none from the beginning.”

    BRAVO!!!

  62. WTF says:

    This post is a DISGRACE! THE translation is WAY OFF, and then it even go deeper into stereotypes! SHAME ON YOU!!

  63. WTF says:

    YOU GOT THIS ALL WRONG!!! BLACK LADY WAS HOGGING 2 SEATS WITH HER PURSE!

  64. Ana says:

    The Chinese lady claims that she had asked the Black lady politely if she could have one of the two seats that the Black lady occupied. The Black lady was rude and decided that letting her purse take up an extra seat was a better idea.

    I’m sorry, but your take on this video is horribly wrong. This isn’t even Cantonese, it’s Taishanese. How racist are you to say that based on her coming from China that she hasn’t learned of seat sharing and waiting in lines? How are those things even “Western practice”? It’s called having manners and being considerate… which the Black lady clearly had none from the beginning.

    And about the racial tension between Asian and Blacks… while it’s not as pronounced, Asians have always been picked on as easy targets. Finally someone fought back to the abuse.

  65. Will (author) says:

    …and yeah, I did have a bit bias against the Asian woman (and yes I’m Chinese and from the Bay Area), but does that mean I pick sides based on it. At least I’m not presuming guilt on the black lady which could have been completely innocent in the matter…just a bit hot tempered.

  66. Will (author) says:

    Cory – Yeah, I agree that most people may come off as polite – but relatively speaking, lines in most of Asia aren’t the most orderly.

    Tony – C’mon now, when’s the last time you rode the MUNI and the first person to scoot in to let you sit was a fellow elderly Asian lady?

    And just to clear things up, the black lady probably started it. I’m just trying to consider both sides. Unfortunately, most of the commenters are associating Black with Guilt. Does anyone think the Asian lady made things worse? I’m just highlighting a scenario where the Asian lady could have escalated the matter beyond words.

  67. Tony says:

    Way to jump to conclusions based upon race! “It’s almost assuredly so that the Asian lady was from China, and to which she probably never adopted the western way of sharing seats or waiting in straight lines.” The author should be embarrassed that his description of the fight is still published given that what actually happened was the complete opposite of what he describes. The fact that the author might be asian himself makes it even more tragic. I am Chinese American and I know we can be racist too. This article is a perfect illustration.

  68. Cory says:

    If the author has ever been to Hong Kong or any big city in China, you would notice that everyone is pretty much damn polite. Buses and the metro are really organized and there is hardly the chaos that exists on muni. There are also a lot more people in hk and china which is even more impressive – people on the metros are buses make way for each other and are comfortable with crowded spaces. Not to mention that the metro and buses are incredibly clean – unlike sitting on BART or muni when you got vomit, food scraps, and people spitting.

  69. ALL WRONG says:

    wow, author is totally incorrect. it was the black lady who would not move her purse to allow the chinese woman to sit down with her groceries. and nice bias trying to place the blame on the chinese woman.

    “one thing I must say, the Asian lady’s broad vocabulary that is exclusives to the phrases “Fuck you” and “You are stupid” clearly escalated the conflict.”

    really? so the black woman had no involvement? pathetic

    “The Asian lady on the bus probably didn’t have adopt the common practice of making way for other bus riders as well”

    more like the other way around. I see this on BART everyday..

  70. Adia says:

    LOL for the Simpson’s picture!
    You can never move anyone’s stuff, unless they aren’t looking and you can blame someone else. You never know who’s gonna go off on you for touching their personal property. And this wasn’t even crowded for the 30, someone shoulda just moved to another spot in the front

  71. Digi a/o says:

    if you can understand her and the other people speaking in the backround, it states exactly what is going on. she pauses from the argument and clearly and i cant stress how clear she states what is happening and why.

  72. above racists says:

    Dude.

    Personally, having been cut in line, screwed for seats, jacked for carts at the laundry and all manner of other issues with old chinese ladys sharing, I don’t think the black lady was wrong. Just for throwing the first punch, oh and getting her ass beat.

    Good chops on the old chinese lady. I don’t know how this started and noone does that wasn’t there, so I won’t repeat what you can read on the damn youtube comments other than to say…

    Holy crap, asian people are RACIST.

  73. Gordon says:

    You got this all wrong. even fluent Cantonese speakers wont be able to understand her. shes speaking in Toisan dialect. to the poster above, you’re half way there. Its not that black lady dint give up her seat to a lady with grocery’s, its that the black lady didn’t move her purse that was taking up a whole fucking seat, now that is a deserving beating right there. Shes from china.. DUH!!~! who gives a fuck, thats on the #30 passing through chinatown, what the fuck you expect. to anyone out there who who thinks this lady is at fault and who dosent understand her (plenty) take it from me, i grew up 1st gen american born in san francisco chinatown. My family roots probably trace back to her next door village. This lady only wanted a seat and relief of her heavy grocery’s. To have some bitch deny you of that right and then stand up and say “im gonna fuck you up”. Now you tell me who provoked this fight. And to the OP, get your facts straight before you make any false accusations because you sound like a fool.

  74. n*****cansuckmynuts says:

    man, those n****** need to stop thinking that they have the right to do whatever they want.

    the fight actually started because the black lady would NOT let the chinese lady sit down even though the chinese lady had BAGS of groceries. the chinese lady says she asked her nicely, but the black lady wouldn’t move.

    man, fuck them n******. props to the chinese lady for putting the nigger in her place. she should be happy that she has a seat to sit on the bus, let alone being allowed on the bus.

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