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Why Asians Are Good At Math, Finally, A Legit Theory

February 19th, 2009 by Will Leave a reply »

Asians And MathWhether you admit it or not, being raised in America, we all know the racial stereotypes that have traversed through our colorful history. For Asian Americans, we are all good at math right? It’s a stereotype, but a good stereotype right? Despite my frequent ramblings, political correctness concerns me little. Instead, I am interested in the roots and explanations to social phenomenon that we humans, out of ignorance, simplify with racial stereotypes.

What do people really think about the Asians-good-at-math stereotype? Oh, I know, it’s because they’re smarter. Well, no, if we accept Asians are good at math because Asians are smarter, we fall into the same whirlpool of ignorance the Conquistadors used to justify their dominance over Meso-Americans or 19th century American slave owners who believed African slaves could only become civilized through hard work. Fortunately, Malcolm Gladwell’s most recent book, Outliers, has shed some light on the Asian math stereotype.

First, what we know. American grade school students have always trailed continental Asia in math. Some claim Asian students are better because they spend more hours in school. But comparing school systems fails to account for Asian-American success. Asians in America go through the same education system yet in the 2003 SAT exam, Asian-Americans averaged 575 in Math while White’s averaged 534, American Indian’s 482, Hispanics 464, and African Americans at 426.

So if it’s not the schools, what accounts for Asians succeeding in math across different education systems? As English speakers, we may be unaware, but the English language is perhaps the most odd and irrational language around. Particularly with numbers, in English, after ten the teens each have an unique name and each tenth following that gets their own name. In fact, one would need to learn 28 unique words to count up to 100 in English while in any Chinese dialect, Japanese, or Korean, one only needs to learn 11 – one through ten and one hundred.

In Asian languages like Chinese, numbers after ten follow a precise logic. Eleven in Mandarin is shi yi or ten-one, twelve is ten-two, thirteen is ten-three, and so forth. When we get to fifty-nine, the logic continues, five-ten-nine. Five tens and a nine, 59. The internal logic in counting numbers with Asian languages results in kids who speak Asian languages are able to count beyond a hundred before English speakers can even count to 40. But the Asian language advantage doesn’t stop in counting. Remember those dreaded fractions? In English we would read 3/4 as three-fourths. But for languages like Chinese, 3/4 is literally translated, “out of 4 parts, take 3″.

When you think how much more sense math makes for Asian-language speakers and considering how many frustrated 3rd graders go home with there hands crossed because multiplication doesn’t make sense. How much fun would math had been if it did make sense? Wouldn’t you do more homework? In turn wouldn’t you pick up new concepts – in which case math heavily depends on learning piece by piece – easier. Quite simply,

The much-storied disenchantment with mathematics among western children starts in the third and fourth grade, [...] perhaps a part of that disenchantment is due to the fact that math doesn’t seem to make sense; its linguistic structure is clumsy; its basic rules seem arbitrary and complicated.

Asian children, by contrast, don’t face nearly that same sense of bafflement. They can hold more numbers in their head, and do calculations faster, and the way fractions are expressed in their language corresponds exactly to the way a fraction actually is—and maybe that makes them a little more likely to enjoy math, and maybe because they enjoy math a little more they try a little harder and take more math classes and are more willing to do their homework, and on and on, in a kind of virtuous circle.

When it comes to math, in other words, Asians have built-in advantage. . .

And as a child, you’re not discouraged at math, it’s likely you’ll continue to take math classes growing up and continuing to do homework because it just all makes sense.

While extensive study on languages affect on math, Gladwell’s assertions shed light away from simplistic racial explanations for which I personally rejoice over.

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150 comments

  1. Chuck says:

    I’m white and got an 800 on my math SAT. Suck it, idiots!

    • Political Figurehead says:

      Please do NOT say any discriminatory things on this site! It all depends how you study and how much you study!

  2. Vito says:

    I am in no way trying to sound bigoted, but I personally believe that people of African descent have a natural predisposition for decresed brain capacity. In other words, they are unable to perform at the same level as Asians or Causasians. I attribute the academic excellence of many Afican Americans to the fact that they possess a considerable amount of white ancestory, thus, giving them a slight advantage in the way of cognitive ability.

  3. Myron says:

    I’ve read some of the comments on this topic. And I find some of them quite ignorant and immature. I’m an African American and I believe that all cultures can learn from each other.

    Asian and Indian cultures excel in mathematics, because it is taught differently in their schools. For instance, Indians learn Vedic mathematics, which is the way I’m teaching my son at home. It demonstrates techniques for solving problems quicker and easier. American uses the modern way of doing mathematics, which is complicated and posesses too many steps. I also agree we the notion that language has something to do with way people learn. If English is difficult to learn, I would believe teaching mathematics with English would be difficult also.

    There are logical reasons for success or failure. Let us learn from each other so we all can succeed. Our world faces some very big problems and we need everyone onboard to solve them

  4. I’m Asian. Our food makes us smarter :D

  5. keisha says:

    Well , Im Black And I Learned algebra in 7th Grade , Your Raice has Nothing To Do Wit Your Smartness , But To All My Asians Keep On Making Your Good Orange Chicken And Fried Rice . Hahaha

    • Keisha_C says:

      Learn to spell properly, Kesha if you want to be taken seriously! When you said “Algebra”, did you mean 1+1=? Hmmmmmmm

    • Vito says:

      Keisha, I applaud your ability to comprehend Algebra at an early point in your education, but you English grammar is utterly deplorable! I hope that your misspellings were just typos and not deliberate attempts at feasible English.

  6. american says:

    IM white

  7. Hmmmm? says:

    Where’s korean? We learn how to sing 9 x 9 mutliplication chart in kindergarten

  8. idris says:

    but i still dont get it
    y china is smart

  9. Anonymous says:

    I’m asian myself and im a average solid B student. i think that one thing i find completely stupid is when people hear the word asian they automaticly think “chinese”. Chinese people aren’t the only ones in Asia u know -.- anyways, i dont know if it’s genetics or complete bullcrap, but if scientists were convinced asians were smarter, racism and ignorance would skyrocket. More “hitlers” could form. And prejudices would build. Even if asians somehow WERE smarter, i think that people shouldn’t give much too much thought about it because every living thing is equal, no matter how intellegent or big.

  10. Arm4ced says:

    It’s their food PERIOD!

  11. Joe says:

    If your theory is correct, why are african americans, whose native language is of course English so much worse at math than their white (or latino peers) according to the statistics you provided? You need to test that theory by looking at differences between asian americans who have chinese or korean or japanese as their first language and those who don’t (and ideally do not speak these languages at all).
    In any case i believe that socioeconomic (culture, familiy life, work ethic, funds available for additional edu., collective thinking vs. individualist thinking etc) are far more important than language, genetics etc.

    • Myron says:

      The reason some people do poorly in math is due to lack of interest. Race does not have anything to do with it. And sometimes it could be lack of parental support at home. In other words, if nobody tells you why you need math and how it’s applied to things in everyday life, then you will not see its importance.

    • Jamashu says:

      I hate generalizations. It’s more about environment than anything. I know an African student at my university in America who tutors math and can solve any math problem.

      I also have known African Americans in High school who were very good at math.

  12. Asian says:

    I can’t help but think why the title of this website is called “Chinese or Japanese.”

  13. Anahit is so cool says:

    Well in my opinion asian people are much smarter than lots of races exept people dont want to admit it. Im Armenian yet i admit that asian people are the most smartest race. Im not saying other launguages are dumb there are very bright launguages like them like Armenians or Russian or Americans but every one knows that asian people have the most smartest people in them.

  14. Sherry says:

    Personally, my parents taught me advanced math at an early age. It gave me a head start in class, as well as your theory of ingrained logic, that helped me work through class at the top of the pack.

  15. korean says:

    I think that finland is very good either eventhough they are not asian I will list company of good at math countries: Finland- Nokia
    South Korea- Samsung LG
    Japan- Sony, Panasonic, Softbank( owner is actually korean)
    China- just gorgeous… but many popular company
    I’m showing this about how the math can affect economy, and the proof of “It is not simple stereotypical thing, their is fact included….

  16. korean says:

    I am a korean and my friends(most) are doing highschool math when they were in elementry. Now I’m in high school, and some of them went to university easily. It is right that chineese or japaneese or koreans are good at math normaly. The reason that they are good at math is they discuss about the math and send gorgeous amount of time for it…cuz of parents :(
    I recommend this cite; http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0923110.html

  17. Cart says:

    And of course (the obvious); although genetics play a role in success in certain areas of life, they are not the only factor. Genetics, environment, and multiple other factors all play part in success and failure in all areas of life.

  18. Cart says:

    What this article meant to have as the Title was, “Why Asians Are Good at Math: Finally a Politically Correct (although pathetically weak) Argument”.

    Pure and simple: people in 21st Century America, in order to not commit the “greatest sin ever” (racism) will base all their research around anything that will not make them appear “racist”. Even if the facts smack them straight in the face, they will straight deny it in order to not appear racist.

    Every race of people has distinct advantages and disadvantages about them genetically. That is what makes God’s creation so special (and what keeps evil from completely overtaking the world–built in checks and balances). There is “diversity” (to steal the term from the social Marxists of America) among God’s people groups. Just because a killer from the past used this knowledge for evil doesn’t make the knowledge itself evil. Just like a gun, knife, or hammer is not evil in itself; it depends on how one uses it!

    • robin says:

      Cart, I can’t agree more! I believe every race (and that not just simply said as White, Black, Asian- there are undeniable differences between Whites, between Blacks and the hundreds of other deviations of races in the world) has some sort of advantage due to the environment they lived in for centuries, their language, but maybe even their physical (maybe even psychological) features. I’m half Asian myself and through observing my fellow Asians and Europeans I think I may have come to one of a thousand conclusions- the language. I mean long term, very long term. Taking Mandarin for example, I’ve studied it as a completely foreign language to my background and from my perspective it seems that a group of people (lets say the Mandarin speaking population) who have been using a language such as this- a language based largely on memory, especially when writing characters, used for hundreds of years can possibly strengthen a certain type of memory, remembering and quickly recalling the right series of strokes/numbers/words can a help with things like math. We shouldn’t just say Asians are good at math, perhaps its a wider range (memory in general??or discipline-in many cases quite obviously but that is a cultural issue as well…). I know there is a hundred other reasons involved but perhaps this could make some sense. Whether it seems racist or not something obvious or prove-able shouldn’t be ignored.

  19. well duh says:

    I have read Outliers. He’s wrong about the language bit giving Asians a mathematical advantage– this doesn’t explain the fact that Asian Americans learning math in English in Amercian schools, still beat everyone else in math. I don’t blame him though–he doesn’t really know because he’s not Asian. We’re tops in maths (and academics in general) because of parenting and culture. But any Asian knows, what makes us better in math is because we value education more than any other group of people. We know that education is the ladder out of poverty, not by being a rapper, a ballplayer or a cheerleader in high school. Our parents tell us that our #1 job as their kid is to do well in school. So we are pressured to achieve. We know a catastrophe is waiting to happen if we cart home a B- in Math.

    Asian parents are also very involved. Yes, second and third generation Asians too. They monitor their kids’ schoolwork closely. Even poor uneducated Asians will support their kids’ educations with their time and money. They’ll sacrifice vacations so that the kids can have music lessons and whatever it takes to get the kid’s grades up. Asian kids don’t work afterschool jobs either. Their job is to cart home A’s. If the family needs more money, mom and dad get second or third jobs if need be. Asian kids are generally not allowed to have jobs while in school. Imagine my shock when I moved to a city with little Asians and discovered that it was not like this with non-Asian families!

    On top of that, we work the hardest and study the most. Me, my 20 cousins, and every other Asian kid I know got math drillsheets from our parents (printed if your parents were educated, or handwritten if your parents weren’t) and/or afterschool tutoring on top of schoolwork and were made to learn our multiplications and division tables before second grade, not fourth grade like in US schools. This is regardless of which country the Asian lives in, regardless of whether they are first second or third generation, primary language spoken at home, income level, parents’ education level, or IQ. Math is a subject that requires a certain amount of drilling (practicing) for competency, something Americans are too lazy to do. Asians know “hard work pays off” and we apply this idea to education. That “achievement gap” between Asians and non-Asians starts even before the kids go to kindergarten….Asian parents always take the time to teach their pre-K kids to add and read….most others do not…they think everything is the school’s job. My kid’s in school now and she is 2 grades ahead on everything according to her standardized test scores. Part of it is because she’s smart, but most of it is because we keep her ahead at home. School achievement requires “effort” which most people don’t like hearing.

    • Almost says:

      While I respect that Asians work hard in school, please note they are not the only ones, please read below: my little brother (Not Asian) who is #1 in his class (#2 is Asian). His class is over six hundred people, and very competitive. The guy that is number 2 does exactly what you said, he does not work and his parents are vary involved. My Mother is involved but does not hover. In addition my brother works, is in the school band and about a billion other clubs. So he has an addition advantage for when it is time to apply for college. I almost forgot, I finished my masters in accounting when I was just 21. So while I understand that Asians put in a lot of effort in school, they are not the only ones.

    • Anonymous says:

      to long dont care loser

  20. Mr. Fraggle says:

    Idiots. And you wonder why “Asians” are smarter -_-

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